‘The absence of certainty’: Kate Lilley in Conversation with Rae Armantrout

By and | 4 February 2025

Oh, this next poem, ‘Fractal,’ was actually in the magazine Scientific American, which, believe it or not, has a poetry column.

Fractal

If I were made of 
homunculi

the way a cauliflower 
head 

is made of 
little noggins 

would I be gorgeous

like this green one—
a field of rockets

each nippled with 
hard cones?

I do have an ongoing interest in the sciences. This poem starts with a quote from the biologist Nick Lane that I came across:

Simply

‘were molecular machines 
operating on 
energy freely 
available from 
such sources as 
thermodynamic 
processes.’ 

It sounds so benign 
when you put it 
like that. 

Our earliest ancestors 
were accelerants. 

They ate change. 
Where does that leave us? 

— - —

Do I believe 
that formulating 
a problem 
in the starkest 
possible way
while making strange 
and conspicuous 
word choices 
is helpful? 

What if the answer 
is no? 

— - —

Ladybug, ladybug, 
fly away home. 

Your house is on fire. 
Your children


Narrative

Scattered against dark conifers. 
The seared gold trees
I take for signal fires. 

You too. 

What do you think 
they're saying?

— - —

In fiction, time 
runs both ways 

and the past is legible, 
harmless. 

— - —

Question: 

How are beauty 
and meaning 
connected? 

Beauty seduces meaning. 
Meaning stalks beauty. 

Beauty breaks down 
into meaning.

Meaning breaks down 
into dreams.

And lastly …

Forests

Grotto of letter 
Clusters, 

grove of T's.

Do I believe 
There’s safety 
in numbers, 

in number?

— - —

AI spells death 
to truck stops 

and their gift shops 
packed with lonesome 

doodads. 

— - —

How rhythm
once defined distance—

I mean, domesticated it.

— - —

Each neuron 
broadcasts its call sign 
(plaintively?)

until another homes in 
and a synapse forms.

— - —

Woody bark 
covers the shoots.
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